美国民兵暴动 占领俄勒冈州一联邦政府办公楼(转贴)

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当地时间1月2日，美国俄勒冈州发生了反政府武装暴动，大约150名全副武装的当地民兵团攻击并占领了哈尔尼郡的联邦政府办公楼总部，民兵领袖AmmonBunduy在脸书和youtube，推特上发布公告，宣布自治民团将占领马卢尔野生动物保护区，并将以此为根据地，号召全国上下各地民兵推翻联邦政府。


以Bunduy家为代表的当地牧民们从2014年开始和俄勒冈联邦执法机构屡屡发生冲突，牧民们不认同联邦政府的法律和规定，更倾向于当地民间自行解决问题，一年多来他们组织的民兵团和政府间的冲突愈演愈烈，去年底联邦机构以纵火罪逮捕了两名当地牧民，Bunduy随后串联乡亲，组织了一支150人的武装队伍，打进了政府大楼，并宣布脱离美国联邦自治。图为民兵占领现场。

暴动现场。

Bunduy号召全国有武器的人脱离联邦政府。

jerseyv

凤凰网也开始胡扯八道了，没有任何报道说是打进政府大楼。这些人就是趁节假日政府关门的时候进入，为了抗议政府以建动物保护区的名义强征私人土地。政府征地的时候如果不从的就以各种名义惩罚，比如安个什么纵火罪什么的关进监狱。

Demosthenes

jerseyv 发表于 2016-1-3 06:25
凤凰网也开始胡扯八道了，没有任何报道说是打进政府大楼。这些人就是趁节假日政府关门的时候进入，为了抗议 ...

乌龟....

dart

看了采访，感觉领头的说不清楚他们到底想要什么。

chevoodoo

看不到照片

Laou168

冬夜寒冷，借联邦财产过夜，附带抗议示威。

brucewayne

dart 发表于 2016-1-3 11:34
看了采访，感觉领头的说不清楚他们到底想要什么。

不能随便乱说，会留把柄的，具体细节肯定得坐下来带着律师谈。

firexl

dart 发表于 2016-1-3 08:34
看了采访，感觉领头的说不清楚他们到底想要什么。

造反也得有读书人帮忙才行

Huntington

具体细节不清楚，但政府的权力时不时需要被限制一下才不会为所欲为。

Tank-Tank

乱七八糟， 就想浑水摸鱼。 还想搞分裂

bridlewood

“号召全国上下各地民兵推翻联邦政府”这是小编边撸边写出来的吧

NCL

欢迎阅读主流媒体相关报道下面的评论，感受一下左b的恶意。

XeonR

aaa

mica

“宣布自治民团将占领马卢尔野生动物保护区，并将以此为根据地，号召全国上下各地民兵推翻联邦政府。”

此句最早出处来自于李世默的观察者网

从加州到加州

都自首去了。

Huntington

XeonR 发表于 2016-1-3 22:03
美国还真是这样。在有些时候，必需 say no, and tell them WHY.

如果你总是 say yes, 别人当你傻瓜，  ...

从bunndy家的事情看，政府自己随便立个规矩，就想把别人在那生活了很多辈子的土地给剥夺了。这样的权利不受限制是很可怕的。

这次奥巴马想要通过executive order来绕过2A也是一例，自己能立法能执行，还要三权分立干嘛？这种公然蔑视constitution的行为应该被impeach。

XeonR

aaa

lalirui

Huntington 发表于 2016-1-4 20:42
从bunndy家的事情看，政府自己随便立个规矩，就想把别人在那生活了很多辈子的土地给剥夺了。 ...

totally agree

qlblx

从加州到加州 发表于 2016-1-4 17:48
都自首去了。

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-n ... -fourth-day-n490321

An armed occupation of a federally owned wildlife outpost in remote Oregon rolled into its fourth day Tuesday, even after the two men at the center of the unrest disavowed the protest.

The group, which calls itself the Citizens for Constitutional Freedom, seized the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge on Saturday. It was empty at the time because of the holidays.

The protesters have remained at the reserve even after the Hammonds, who turned themselves in at the federal prison in San Pedro, California, on Monday afternoon, appeared to disavow the occupation.

The Hammonds' lawyers said they plan to appeal to President Barack Obama for executive clemency, but stated that "neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organization speak for the Hammond family."

...

苦主已经服软了，自己二进宫，ＢＵＮＤＹ和他的支持者还在坚持。

MWD

Huntington 发表于 2016-1-3 11:04
具体细节不清楚，但政府的权力时不时需要被限制一下才不会为所欲为。

http://theconservativetreehouse. ... family-persecution/

"(a3) By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentionally diverted the water bypassing the vast meadow lands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers who once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede; now the once thriving privately owned Silvies plains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS."

“Here are some interesting links about US Attorney Amanda Marshall who made the recommendation to challenge the Hammonds’ original sentences. She resigned in May 2015 for “health reasons” amid a scandal – she is accused of stalking a subordinate, federal prosecutor Scott Kerin. She is an Obama appointee who had no experience as a federal prosecutor when she took the job (see below*).”

不管怎么说，至少搅起了一潭浑水，否则有几个人知道这些事儿