Why You Might Actually Want to Try a 7.5″ 5.56 AR-15 Build

X-PGH

http://jerkingthetrigger.com/201 ... 5-5-56-ar-15-build/

Ray

周末你没事出来种草

tty999

这ar上那个折叠的我还想再搞点弄不到啊，，，

brucewayne

no thanks，never 哈哈

wlzb4

davidd

好

m429529

够了 又种草！！

Hohenstaufenz

Already have one, loving it!

windpoint

Hohenstaufenz 发表于 2015-6-13 07:11
Already have one, loving it!

7.5, 子弹离膛的时候，火药还没烧尽吧

Hohenstaufenz

windpoint 发表于 2015-6-13 08:20
7.5, 子弹离膛的时候，火药还没烧尽吧

I put a Noveske Flaming Pig on it, so fireball or gas blowback noticed.

idee

Buffer tube上装的那个是个啥brand/model？这东东ATF让shoulder不

X-PGH

idee 发表于 2015-6-13 13:51
Buffer tube上装的那个是个啥brand/model？这东东ATF让shoulder不

ENHANCED AR/AK PISTOL CHEEK REST KIT

http://www.thordsencustoms.com/s ... ST-KIT-x3607311.htm

ATF APPROVED

The Thordsen Customs /CAA Saddle combination is ATF approved for use as aCHEEK REST for AR and AK variant pistols. It is not designed nor intended to be a shouldering device. PLEASE READ ENTIRELY, the BATFE advisory and letters at the bottom of this page for more details.

idee

X-PGH 发表于 2015-6-13 15:35
ENHANCED AR/AK PISTOL CHEEK REST KIT

http://www.thordsencustoms.com/shop/AR-PISTOL/p/ENHANCED-A ...

谢谢！这东西还是不让shoulder。
仍然不完全清楚的是，直接shoulder buffer tube是否legal。看letter里的这两段：

"The receiver extension/buffer tube on an AR-type pistol serves a legitimate, vital functionin the operation of the weapon system; and ifutilized as originally designed is notconsidered to be a shoulder stock. Further, a pistol that has an AR-t1pe buffer tube orsimilar component assembled to it, which consequently allows for the installation of asaddle/cheek enhancement accessory, is not classified as a SBR; nor unlawful to possess."

这段是说
1. AR buffer tube是AR pistol正常操作必需，不被认为是stock。这里应该已经clear了正常的buffer tube。
2. 如果上面的配件设计目的不是shoulder，装上也没有改变用法就没问题。Saddle/cheek enhancement符合此类。

"However, if a pistol assembled with an AR-type buffer tube or similar component; whichin tum, redesigns the subject AR-type pistol to be desigred or redesigned andconsequently intended to be fired from the shoulder; an NFA weapon as defined in 26U.S.C. $ 58a5(a)(3); has been made."


这段是说，如果装了buffer tube或者类似零件，导致AR pistol被“设计”或者"重新设计"成fired from shoulder，就不行了。

从这两段来看，似乎如果用标准buffer tube就不存在design或者redesign，因为第一段clear了buffer tube，第二段说到的design和redesign for firing from shoulder不applicable，似乎结论应该是可以shoulder buffer tube？

X-PGH

idee 发表于 2015-6-13 18:56
谢谢！这东西还是不让shoulder。
仍然不完全清楚的是，直接shoulder buffer tube是否legal。看letter里的 ...

有些时候儿, 事情毁就毁在 "纠结" - !
这东西叫  "腮帮枕", 不是抵肩的枪托;
使用时, 把热脸贴上去 - 至于其 End 与肩有多远, 那就自己掌握了 - 你懂得.

我的几把 AR-Pistols, 都是 "筒子" only ...  贴脸, 肩膀前倾 ... 都不是事儿.

firexl

我在考虑弄一把piston pistol AR，托不用拉直就能打

idee

X-PGH 发表于 2015-6-13 16:33
有些时候儿, 事情毁就毁在 "纠结" - !
这东西叫  "腮帮枕", 不是抵肩的枪托;
使用时, 把热脸贴上去 - 至于 ...

我觉得啊，跟枪有关的还是要小心，法律条文也尽量搞搞清楚。别的事情打擦边球，可能往两边掉。粘枪了，anti们正愁没典型可抓，送上门的就不会放过了。我在枪店问这个事情，伙计小声跟我说，“也许法律上不清楚，因为还没有案例，但我自己不会在公开的靶场让人看到shoulder pistol。” 想想其实有道理，如果自己不想做那个案例的话。我们这边一个FFL关门，也是因为被盯上抓了典型。

话说具体到筒子，我从上面的分析看应该问题不大。带这个腮帮枕头就要小心了。被哪个好事者拍张照片说不定麻烦就来了

idee

firexl 发表于 2015-6-13 18:43
我在考虑弄一把piston pistol AR，托不用拉直就能打

都不能有托吧。

firexl

idee 发表于 2015-6-13 22:13
都不能有托吧。

我的意思就是那根杆儿

brucewayne

idee 发表于 2015-6-13 18:56
谢谢！这东西还是不让shoulder。
仍然不完全清楚的是，直接shoulder buffer tube是否legal。看letter里的 ...

"However, if a pistol assembled with an AR-type buffer tube or similar component; whichin tum, redesigns the subject AR-type pistol to be desigred or redesigned and consequently intended to be fired from the shoulder; an NFA weapon as defined in 26U.S.C. $ 58a5(a)(3); has been made."


只要有意抵肩就算redesign，无论是什么装置。

以上是按照法律的解读~

idee

brucewayne 发表于 2015-6-15 11:22
"However, if a pistol assembled with an AR-type buffer tube or similar component; whichin tum, red ...

Redesign需要有个change吧，是不是指特殊形状的buffer tube或者装置？传统buffer tube我理解不能叫做 redesign，因为原来就那样，而且是操作必需的