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[新闻案例] RIP:新墨西哥华裔女老板与劫匪枪战去世

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新墨西哥州勇敢的按摩中心华裔女老板在与劫匪的枪战中死亡,匪徒也中数枪重伤(视频)

新墨西哥州阿尔伯克基市,美丽柔弱的方某表现了亚裔女性坚韧勇敢的性格,在迫不得已的情况下,以暴制暴,用生命的代价做了最顽强抵抗。身高仅5英尺5英寸,体重约105磅的方思慧和她的密友罗德-霍恩斯坦(Rod Honstein)在听说当地按摩店发生了几起持枪抢劫案后,制定了如果她的店成为目标该怎么办的战略。
方思慧得出的结论是,她将试图逃跑,如果这不起作用,她将服从要求。
霍恩斯坦告诉本报记者:"如果这还不起作用,我们在店里有一把枪,她只有在100%确定他们会杀了她时才会使用那把枪"。
方思慧在一个贫穷的中国村庄长大,最终成为阿尔伯克基的一名成功企业家。然而,她的生命将在1月24日星期一晚上戛然而止,在她的按摩中心内与一名18岁的抢劫匪发生枪战,匪徒自己也身中数枪重伤。
据警方称,监控录像显示,豪尔赫-里维拉-拉米雷斯(Jorge Rivera-Ramirez)支付了按摩费,然后用枪逼迫方某为同伙开门。方某试图逃跑,但人们看到拉米雷斯拽着她的头发到后面的办公室。
录像随后中断,但调查人员认为,在她拿起枪并向拉米雷斯开枪之前,方某给了这些人500美元。在初步调查中,调查人员认为拉米雷斯在开枪回击方某之前跑进了另一个房间,并杀死了她。
拉米雷斯在枪战中多处中弹,目前正在医院康复中。他的同伙仍在逃。
目击者说到处都是血。室内、室外、柱子上。
霍恩斯坦告诉本报,他是警察离开后第一个进入Wonderful按摩水疗中心的人。
"你无法相信你会在这家店内看到什么。我的意思是,这是完全的破坏,"他说。"而这位女士用她的每一分的力量来争取生存,抗争到底。"

Spa owner fought back in robbery

Copyright © 2022 Albuquerque Journal

Upon hearing of several armed robberies at local massage businesses, Rod Honstein and Sihui Fang sat down and strategized what to do if her shop was targeted.
First, Fang – at 5 feet, 5 inches and 105 pounds – would try to run. If that didn’t work, she would give the robbers cash, electronics, whatever they wanted.

“And if that didn’t work, we had a gun in the shop and she would only use that gun if she was 100% sure they would kill her,” Honstein, Fang’s closest friend, told the Journal.
In the end, it appears the 45-year-old fought like hell.
Fang, who grew up in an impoverished Chinese village and became a successful entrepreneur in Albuquerque, died Monday night in a shootout with an 18-year-old armed robber inside her Northeast Albuquerque massage spa, police say. The alleged shooter, Jorge Rivera-Ramirez, is recovering in the hospital from multiple gunshot wounds. His accomplice is still on the loose.

Surveillance video showed Rivera-Ramirez paid Fang for a massage to get inside before forcing her, at gunpoint, to open the door for an accomplice, according to police. Fang tried to run but Rivera-Ramirez is seen dragging her by the hair to the back office.
The video cut out, but detectives believe Fang gave the men $500 before she retrieved a gun and fired at Rivera-Ramirez. They say evidence showed Rivera-Ramirez ran into another room before shooting back at Fang, killing her.
Honstein said he was the first one in the Wonderful Massage spa after police left.

“You can’t believe what you would have seen inside this shop. I mean, it was total devastation,” he said. “And this lady fought with every ounce of her strength to survive.”
Honstein said Fang had a recent close call of an attempted rape and, soon after, videos of armed robberies at other spas made the rounds among Asian business owners.
Honstein said Police Chief Harold Medina spoke with him at length and “was very supportive” as Honstein explained the current danger posed to the Asian-run businesses and their reluctance to speak with police.

The Albuquerque Police Department says the homicide may be tied to a string of two-man robberies at Asian massage businesses around the city due to similarities in the case, particularly the disabling of security cameras.
APD spokesman Gilbert Gallegos declined to answer questions about that investigation.
The owner of another Asian-owned massage spa told the Journal she knew of more than 20 robberies of such businesses in Albuquerque and Santa Fe in recent months, although it’s unclear whether they’re all connected. The woman, who spoke broken English, said she hears of the incidents through other business owners and she tells them to call police.


A woman who worked at Asian Spa Massage on East Central said she had been robbed four times, twice since July. She said in July she was robbed by two men with a gun. They took her phone, license, bank cards and what little money she had. The second time, a few months ago, she said it was one man with a gun and she was able to run away.
“Too much, massage shops, a robber comes inside to rob them two times, three times,” the woman said. “It’s very, very dangerous right now.”
Honstein said Fang, whose name is pronounced Sue-Way Fong, had a remarkable life with “the toughest beginning one person could have.”

He said she was raised by subsistence farmers in a small village in China’s Hubei province. The home had a dirt floor with no electricity or running water.
Honstein said Fang moved to Shanghai after eighth grade and then to the United States by her early 30s, becoming “perfectly conversational” in English with no formal teaching. Honstein, who is almost 30 years older, said he met Fang in 2017 when she offered to help him learn Mandarin for a planned trip to Asia. By that time she owned her own home, car and a thriving business, one that boasts numerous Yelp reviews of people thanking her for curing their sciatica and sports injuries.
Honstein said the pair found a bond he wouldn’t expect “in a million years.”

“We were just on the same page,” Honstein said. “… I mean, our cultures are so different, our backgrounds are so different. But it was really an amazing, amazing friendship.”
He said Fang had a beautiful, if untrained, singing voice, was an excellent photographer and one of the smartest people he ever met “with a thirst for knowledge.” When the pandemic closed down her business, she took up hiking, to Honstein’s detriment.

“She wasn’t about to sit around. So she said, ‘We’re gonna hike.’ And it was almost the death of me, but I somehow managed to sort of keep up,” the 72-year-old said. The pair racked up hundreds of miles in trips to the Grand Canyon, Mount Elbert and around New Mexico.

Honstein said there aren’t enough good adjectives to describe his friend.
“She was exceptional in every way. And I think the reason she was so beautiful on the outside was because she was so beautiful on the inside,” he said.


Sihui Fang at the Atlantis Resort in the Bahamas (Courtesy of Rod Honstein)
More recently, he said Fang talked about getting out of the massage business.

Honstein said he was helping her sharpen her English reading skills and financial savvy. He was excited to watch her blossom.
“We talked about strategies for aging, gracefully and healthily. This lady was just getting started,” he said. “I was excited just to see, in the short time I’ve got left, where she went.”










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lczlcz 发表于 2022-2-3 06:43
你这个对HP的原理解释的清楚, 感谢, 学习了. 我原来还以为弹头会像破甲弹那样裂开.
不过我估计按摩店女 ...


我原来也是这么认为,空头弹或软头弹打到体内会炸开。
一个是在国内时听说过“开花弹”这个词,还有就是被生化危机游戏误导,RE1/2/3里面的手枪科尔特蟒蛇/IMI沙鹰/史密斯外甥629用来打丧尸时,都是一枪能把丧尸头打爆,碎成血雨,剩下一个无头丧尸,超爽,被翻译成麦林手枪(其实就是magnum的港台音译)。
所以后来到美国买第一把枪时跟枪店老板聊,聊到家访要用空头弹时,我说“空头弹很好,能在体内爆炸(explode)”,老板认同,不过纠正了一下我的用词“expand”。。

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uper 发表于 2022-2-3 10:41
不知底细,不敢乱说。

但是,华人特别华女普遍反枪,不愿意接触枪,反感和枪有关的知识直接导致对潜在的 ...

其实这种情况很常见的。看了太多案例都是这样的,包括福州老板娘和费城外卖小哥,被打死的罪犯都是蹦跶了很久才彻底死翘翘。好在大部分人中枪后心理上就先垮了,要么逃命要么瘫倒,但要不幸碰上意志顽强的对手,近距离手枪对手枪很大可能就是两败俱伤。
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都先开枪了,还打中了,感觉很可能是口径、弹头不合适,要是22或者32、38acp的小枪,确实不容易打死人。
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jhe123 发表于 2022-1-30 23:09
RIP.  这就是手枪的局限,停止力太有限了,除非命中中枢神经系统,否则对方即使已经是死人了,死翘翘前也总 ...

不知底细,不敢乱说。

但是,华人特别华女普遍反枪,不愿意接触枪,反感和枪有关的知识直接导致对潜在的威胁,自卫的方法,心理准备等等缺乏必要的准备。

华人都到我们这里逛逛,把精华区那几片文章读读,并身体力行,保守估计能至少把华人每年受害者减少一半。
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lczlcz 发表于 2022-2-3 10:43
你这个对HP的原理解释的清楚, 感谢, 学习了. 我原来还以为弹头会像破甲弹那样裂开.
不过我估计按摩店女 ...

就是个能量传递,尽量把子弹的动能从子弹给到目标,简单的说就是尽量增大弹头在目标内的阻力,降低穿出之后的速度,不管是弹头扩张还是翻滚都是为了这个。至于碎片那类似宽箭头射鹿,要穿过血管密集区比如心肺区才有效果,而且停止作用很差,目标大概率有相当时间的反击能力。
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RIP 一路走好
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双筒 发表于 2022-2-2 10:33
正常的手枪空尖弹工作原理,打中人体目标后只会扩展,不可能裂开成碎片啊(特殊设计的像RIP弹头除外,但R ...

你这个对HP的原理解释的清楚, 感谢, 学习了. 我原来还以为弹头会像破甲弹那样裂开.
不过我估计按摩店女老板还是没用HP, 否则打中好几发, 劳模肯定不行了. 我猜她那个时候刚刚买枪, 对用什么子弹还一无所知呢.


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lczlcz 发表于 2022-2-2 11:42
啊, 我的意思就是说如果女主用的是HP, 那么应该是打中后弹头变成碎片裂开 (不是炸药那样炸开, 我前面讲的 ...

正常的手枪空尖弹工作原理,打中人体目标后只会扩展,不可能裂开成碎片啊(特殊设计的像RIP弹头除外,但RIP的杀伤力其实远没有字面上那么精彩,所以到现在也没几个执法或个人自卫选那个弹的)。 弹头主要成分是铅,在软组织(特别是水分比较多的东西比如血液)的冲压下会变形,所以做个空腔在前面让血液从里往外撑开那个空腔,让弹头直径变大,这样运动阻力更大,穿深变短但创伤通道直径更大,这是设计目的。所以某个空尖弹在体内破碎了,或者被甲脱落了,这反而不是设计目的,因为这样让弹头质量变轻,穿深更浅达不到要求,所以空尖弹从目标里取出来重量有没有减少是衡量设计成功或失败的一个指标,破碎或者掉东西的空尖弹是比较烂的设计。。。
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双筒 发表于 2022-2-1 12:08
空尖弹头不是explosive啊,不可能炸的。 所有弹头入口就是它的直径,9毫米的话就像让John Wick的铅笔捅出 ...

啊, 我的意思就是说如果女主用的是HP, 那么应该是打中后弹头变成碎片裂开 (不是炸药那样炸开, 我前面讲的不准确), 那么就是打中手臂的话, 应该有个大洞. 那个停止力应该不小的吧, 何况好像新闻里面说打中了好几发. 所以我猜女主用的就是普通子弹, 所以就是打中劳模的四肢好几发,劳模还能还击.

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以一对二,尤其在对方gunpoint之下,即使是训练有素也是非常不容易对付的。这年头好人不易啊

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lczlcz 发表于 2022-1-30 20:43
我觉得肯定是啊, HP的你就是打中手臂或者腿上也是炸开一个大洞吧, 哪里还有能力还击? 何况新闻里面还说是 ...

空尖弹头不是explosive啊,不可能炸的。 所有弹头入口就是它的直径,9毫米的话就像让John Wick的铅笔捅出来的洞。 空尖弹如果在体内扩展了,出来的洞会大一些(9毫米的弹头会扩展到半英寸),但FMJ的弹头如果在体内翻转了,出来的洞还会更大一些。 但这些不是炸开的洞,只有好莱坞会有这样的戏剧效果。。。
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ENG-Emblem 发表于 2022-2-1 14:53
会不会是一开始想逃跑,但没成功。
然后想拿钱买命,结果对方收了钱以后还是向她开枪。
遂发现对方是要她的 ...

差不多就是这样子。歹徒应该想要更多的钱,或者想要强奸她。
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会不会是一开始想逃跑,但没成功。
然后想拿钱买命,结果对方收了钱以后还是向她开枪。
遂发现对方是要她的命,于是在一边挨枪的情况下一边去拿枪反击。
这样逻辑上就成立了。自己被击毙,对方受伤
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不知道子弹口径,也不知道是否空尖弹,信息不全,没法评价,让子弹飞吧  
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RIP.  这就是手枪的局限,停止力太有限了,除非命中中枢神经系统,否则对方即使已经是死人了,死翘翘前也总有足够时间反击把另一方打伤打死。很不幸的是女老板运气不好,碰上战斗意志顽强的罪犯了。
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uper 发表于 2022-1-30 09:33
如果真是这个原因那就太可惜了。

我觉得肯定是啊, HP的你就是打中手臂或者腿上也是炸开一个大洞吧, 哪里还有能力还击? 何况新闻里面还说是打中好几发.

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They say evidence showed Rivera-Ramirez ran into another room before shooting back at Fang, killing her.

可能是被囘馬槍打中。槍戰活下來縂有運氣成分。
而且,按她原來的計化,槍是生死関頭才用,而她用了槍,說明她已沒有選擇。

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勇敢的女士,危机面前沉着勇敢,只是运气稍差,RIP
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