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Black Florida Teen Jordan Davis Killed By 46-Year-Old Michael Dunn

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本帖最后由 brucewayne 于 2013-7-18 18:07 编辑

这个案子估计不算正当防卫……

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/vi ... --Jordan-Davis-case

By Evan Bleier, Mon, July 15, 2013

[size=1.1em]In the wake of the Trayvon Martin case verdict coming down during the weekend, media attention is starting to shift to similar ongoing cases.

[size=1.1em]One example, the case of slain 17-year-old Jordan Davis, is now making its way into the spotlight. According to the facts of the case, Davis, who is black, was in an SUV with some of his friends when Michael Dunn, 46, allegedly shot into the vehicle while it was parked at a gas station following an argument about “thug music.”

[size=1.1em]Dunn and his girlfriend, Rhonda Rouer, were on the way back from a wedding where he had consumed at least three alcoholic beverages, according to Policymic.

[size=1.1em]As reported by First Coast News:

[size=1.1em]Rhonda Rouer tells police when they parked next to a car with loud music at the Gate Station on Southside Boulevard November 23rd, Michael Dunn said "I hate that thug music" as he had said to her before. She went inside to buy wine and chips, and heard several shots fired while she was inside.

[size=1.1em]She looked out and saw Dunn, but did not see a gun. She went outside and he urgently told her to 'get in the car, get in the car!' As she did, she saw Dunn put his gun back in the glove box. Dunn told her he shot at the car with the loud music she asked him why.

[size=1.1em]"He said 'I feared for my life.' I said 'why?' He said 'they threatened to kill me.'"

Police: "And he also told you at some point they were advancing?"

Rouer: "Correct."

Police: "But he did not elaborate on what advancing meant?"

Rouer: "Exactly."

[size=1.1em]Following the shooting, Dunn and Rouer drove back to the hotel where they were staying and claim that they only discovered that Davis had died after seeing a report about the incident on the news the next day.

[size=1.1em]Dunn has invoked Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” defense and is saying that he fired into the SUV because he believed there was a weapon inside the vehicle and that the teens “threatened to kill me." Dunn is being charged with first-degree murder as well as three counts of attempted murder.

[size=1.1em]Rolling Stone reported on the case back in April and had some interesting facts about Stand Your Ground.

[size=1.1em]In the eight years since the passage of Stand Your Ground, self-defense killings have more than tripled in Florida, and prosecutors sometimes have little choice but to accept the shooter's story: The only other witness is in the morgue. And like most of the gun amendments incubated in Florida, this one quickly went viral. It's now the law of the land in more than 20 states. Has it reduced violent crime, the stated goal of the law? Certainly not, according to study after study; homicides are up in SYG states, though they're down almost everywhere else. More than 500 people are dead from such shootings. And the prime victims of these crimes, according to one 2012 Georgia State University study? White males, or precisely the sort of men whom SYG was built to protect. But that's what guns do: They backfire and kill.

[size=1.1em]After two judges have left the case, Judge Russell Healey is now presiding over the matter. Since there are conflicting stories about what actually happened, surveillance video of the incident will be an important piece of evidence.


[size=1.1em]一会儿说死者没枪,一会儿又说有枪……最后又攻击法律。SYG没说可以随便开枪,得是确定了相信自己生命受到威胁或伤害……



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发表于 2013-7-18 17:33 | 只看该作者
这案子纯粹是二逼行为阿。
再说,加油站一般都有摄像头的。
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Hetzer 发表于 2013-7-18 18:33
这案子纯粹是二逼行为阿。
再说,加油站一般都有摄像头的。

+1,check the camera at the gas station and that will give some clue what happened.
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-18 17:59 | 只看该作者
Hetzer 发表于 2013-7-18 20:33
这案子纯粹是二逼行为阿。
再说,加油站一般都有摄像头的。

就是这种行为让力薄肉有借口攻击SYG法
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happyfrog 发表于 2013-7-18 20:42
+1,check the camera at the gas station and that will give some clue what happened.

现在媒体的恶意扭曲报道让我都不能100%相信他们了
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brucewayne 发表于 2013-7-18 19:00
现在媒体的恶意扭曲报道让我都不能100%相信他们了

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这是真的吗?有数据吗?。  ---- It's now the law of the land in more than 20 states. Has it reduced violent crime, the stated goal of the law? Certainly not, according to study after study; homicides are up in SYG states, though they're down almost everywhere else.
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turbopascal 发表于 2013-7-19 00:40
这是真的吗?有数据吗?。  ---- It's now the law of the land in more than 20 states. Has it reduced v ...

我不信~数据怎么编都可以
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看来这一轮的趋势不是让守法公民没有枪,而是让守法公民有枪不敢用。

记得英国禁枪后有同样的案例用来解除民众思想上的武装。有一农民对闯入他家的两坏人开枪,打死一个。另一个坏人连牢都不用坐,而该农民因为“罪大恶极”被判关进监狱几十年(忘了是不是终身监禁)。
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