加州有希望能搞到传说中的Title 1 other AR15？？

JasonXieyf

大家做DROS的时候有没有注意过传说中的Other类别。。。
我记得买receiver的时候好像就是注册成Other的

加州的AWB一直有这么一个漏洞，就是Not a rifle, not a shotgun, not a pistol。总长超过26“（不算NFA AOW），没有枪托（在加州不算Rifle），枪管长度超过16”（在加州不算Pistol），理论上可以装任何配件，也可以装任何容量的弹匣。这个我之前还问过枪店有没有这回事，枪店说这玩意风险太大了容易被搞没人敢吃这个螃蟹。
然后就有了这么个玩意。。。
https://franklinarmory.com/title-1-deposit/

这个去年就出了，不过好像现在开始准备往加州整枪卖？transfer的时候按Other算？

现在还没有卖出一把，好像是因为DOJ把Other类别暂停了在讨论这玩意合法不合法？？？如果这个能合法卖出去的话，就说明Title 1 Other在加州是实际存在的一个概念。那以后加州的AR15除了枪托换成Brace以外和别的地方就没有区别了。。。

观望下。。。。。。。

JasonXieyf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxvlDzprSTI&t=177s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO2Zo1zn52w

whatcat

Lower注册成rifle的是不是就不能自己改成这样了？

doublepar

What about this?

Cal. Pen. Code § 16530

(a) As used in this part, the terms "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person," "pistol," and "revolver" apply to and include any device designed to be used as a weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.
(b) Nothing shall prevent a device defined as a "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person," "pistol," or "revolver" from also being found to be a short-barreled rifle or a short-barreled shotgun.

doublepar

whatcat 发表于 2020-4-4 17:14
Lower注册成rifle的是不是就不能自己改成这样了？

"Once a rifle, always a rifle."

JasonXieyf

doublepar 发表于 2020-4-4 17:21
What about this?

Cal. Pen. Code § 16530

我自己猜的。。。。。也许AR不算“designed to be interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length”？，因为AR换枪管没那么容易所以设计上不是给你换的？？？（就像公认的AR手枪Brace不算“设计用来抵肩”，但是想抵肩一样可以抵一样）要不然的话理论上任何枪都是Pistol。。。就不知道这个怎么解释的了。


我看calguns的人更倾向于这玩意是Rifle的风险大一点。。。主要还是看DOJ放不放

doublepar

JasonXieyf 发表于 2020-4-4 18:20
我自己猜的。。。。。也许AR不算“designed to be interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in le ...

再等三个月看看吧 ......

Hetzer

JasonXieyf 发表于 2020-4-4 18:20
我自己猜的。。。。。也许AR不算“designed to be interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in le ...

我个人理解啊，对AR来说，firearm自然就是下机匣了。
然后你换带各种管长的上机匣就等于interchange管子了。

划水闲鱼

之前那个AW的听证会推迟了，其实可以等等AW的判决的