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发表于 2018-8-3 06:56 | 显示全部楼层
doublepar 发表于 2018-8-2 14:52
Ad hominem much?
If you think others are not worthy of your precious erudition, why bother coming t ...

Well not every "others" is the same, don't you agree? You'd ignore the unworthy ones.
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desert_fox 发表于 2018-8-2 16:58
这些要禁Liberator图纸的不知道有没有听说过streisand effect

现在AR10, AR10, Ruger 10/22等等的图纸都 ...

Not for 3D-printing, though
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发表于 2018-8-3 07:36 | 显示全部楼层
uper 发表于 2018-8-2 05:30
"用黑枪的都是这些货色,对他们来说打印一堆零件组装是不可能的任务。"

还真是,他们里面一部分有这点本 ...

Just like not all good guys are bright, not all criminals are stupid.
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发表于 2018-8-3 07:46 | 显示全部楼层
liberals就是想象天朝那样随意封网,封敏感词。

比如google shopping搜ar15结果是:
Your search - ar15 - did not match any shopping results.

祝贺天朝再次输出价值观
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本帖最后由 uper 于 2018-8-3 08:22 编辑
idee 发表于 2018-8-3 07:36
Just like not all good guys are bright, not all criminals are stupid.

I agree.  Never underestimate criminals, badguys, ..., etc.

However, a criminal with a brain does not need 3-d printing guns, so banning 3-D printing will not prevent them from committing a crime.  They can steal, rob, buy (dark market), a real gun very easily.
I understand 3-d printing gun is a sensitive topic.  But unless the left is willing to embrace logic (such as no ban for ar 15, no ban for 30 mag, no featureless, no registration, no limitation on ccw, FOR ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS IN US who have never been voilent toward anyone), I will not support anything they want to do with guns because they only have one ultimate goal - to take your guns, if not today, tomorrow, then the day after tommorrow...





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本帖最后由 uper 于 2018-8-3 08:23 编辑
sig2013 发表于 2018-8-3 07:46
liberals就是想象天朝那样随意封网,封敏感词。

比如google shopping搜ar15结果是:

+1
google dropped their "don't do evil" motto, you figure.
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发表于 2018-8-3 09:25 | 显示全部楼层
uper 发表于 2018-8-3 08:13
I agree.  Never underestimate criminals, badguys, ..., etc.

However, a criminal with a brain does  ...

You think a smart criminal, or a member of organized crime, would rather rob someone and subject him to being caught before doing what he really wants to do, than having someone print a clean and untraceable pistol? Anyone who thinks that is not a smart criminal if you ask me, LOL. If we are talking about bad guy on good guy crimes, the bad guys firearms are more for threatening than for shooting. A handgun with a lightweight untraceable plastic frame (just like Glocks or the polymer80 ones) is a much better option than having a stolen firearm on them which will probably add another 10 years on top of the robbery itself.

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本帖最后由 uper 于 2018-8-3 10:11 编辑
idee 发表于 2018-8-3 09:25
You think a smart criminal, or a member of organized crime, would rather rob someone and subject h ...

You are talking about the ones that fear the law,  but most of them don't, especially those who already choose to use guns.  If they have chosen to use guns to end ppl's lives, they probably don't care the additional several years of prison time because they used a "unclean" gun.


都准备杀人了,还在乎因为用了黑枪会多判几年?got be a lawyer-turned-criminal,  

我觉得一个 smart 罪犯不会选用3d print plastic gun,  真的没优势。clean 不 clean 真不是他们考虑的东西。例外就是有的罪犯就是吓人的,他的底线是受害人吓不住或要反抗我就撒丫子,绝对不会杀人。这种有良心的可能会选择3d, 像你说的那样。

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uper 发表于 2018-8-3 10:04
You are talking about the ones that fear the law,  but most of them don't, especially those who al ...

I'm talking about criminals in general. Even the stupid ones don't want to be caught. It's just sometimes they can't help it.

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idee 发表于 2018-8-3 06:56
Well not every "others" is the same, don't you agree? You'd ignore the unworthy ones.

The feeling is mutual, then.
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发表于 2018-8-3 13:38 | 显示全部楼层
idee 发表于 2018-8-3 10:09
I'm talking about criminals in general. Even the stupid ones don't want to be caught. It's just som ...

1,黑枪比打印出来的枪更加不容易被抓住。
2,黑枪现在也就一两百刀,打印的可能要上千刀以上吧?以后打印机会降价,但是很难相信会比黑市更加便宜。喷墨打印机几十年来降价够多了吧,但是你要是把墨水算上,打印还是比买现成的贵。
3,我相信你是一个智商很高的人,但是这意味着99.999%的罪犯比你的智商低多了。而你非要用你的智商去揣测罪犯的行为,恕我直言,失误会很大的。
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发表于 2018-8-3 16:32 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 moses80h 于 2018-8-3 17:33 编辑
uper 发表于 2018-8-3 11:04
You are talking about the ones that fear the law,  but most of them don't, especially those who alr ...

这个货只不过嘴硬罢了,拿来吓人就更不会用3d打印枪了,肯定要用个Full size,口袋枪威慑力都差很多的,何况看着像塑料玩具的东西。
现实就是犯罪分子搞黑枪就跟进店买包烟一样简单,甚至可以用完后付款。都去抢劫杀人了,谁还在乎多一条持有非法武器的罪名呢,说到底制定这种毫无意义的法律只是拉选票的屠龙之术。
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发表于 2018-8-3 20:31 | 显示全部楼层
idee 发表于 2018-8-3 07:00
Not for 3D-printing, though

Solidworks 文件转换成STL文件就可以3D打印了,当然打出来可不可以装上去我就不知道了.

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idee 发表于 2018-8-3 09:25
You think a smart criminal, or a member of organized crime, would rather rob someone and subject h ...

让别人帮你打印一把枪是让两个人都犯罪了,和买黑枪一样.
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