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巴西男子持枪劫持私立学校,被孩子母亲击毙

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发表于 2018-5-14 10:05 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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发表于 2018-5-14 10:31 | 显示全部楼层
he took the room temperature,
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发表于 2018-5-14 11:01 | 显示全部楼层
she was lucky didn't get hurt. The bad dude got two shots off.  See video here:  https://youtu.be/S4ebuv-QSeI
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发表于 2018-5-14 11:57 | 显示全部楼层
先下手为强,歹徒中枪之后开枪基本行没啥威胁,属于无意识行为。
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发表于 2018-5-14 12:55 | 显示全部楼层
The first priority is to step out of line of fire, either move sideways or move in and deflect the robber's weapon hand. at the time fire your own weapon. As a police officer, she could have done a better job. We need to learn from such encounters.  
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发表于 2018-5-14 13:53 | 显示全部楼层
xin421 发表于 2018-5-14 11:57
先下手为强,歹徒中枪之后开枪基本行没啥威胁,属于无意识行为。

这么近的距离,还是有可能蒙中的。熊妈当时应该双手持枪,边开枪边往道路上快速移动就完美了。
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发表于 2018-5-14 14:36 | 显示全部楼层
先下手为强的优势还是有的,但是运气成分也有。歹徒的枪口好几次指向女警,到底谁能打中谁都是事后才知道。
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发表于 2018-5-14 19:02 | 显示全部楼层
1. 如是团伙打劫就麻烦了;2. 劫匪枪口方向应是人群,警妈好运气,孩子及家长好运啊。。。
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发表于 2018-5-14 19:02 | 显示全部楼层
挨枪之后冲击很大,根本不能指向,乱打枪可能有跳弹击中周围人倒是真的,不过也顾不得跳弹了,必须打了再说,才是积极的处置。事实证明出事故的机会毕竟远低于有计划的射击。
为那个婆娘鼓掌,不是因为她干掉了坏人,而是她弘扬了正气,给小孩和社会做出了好榜样。叫啥来着:敢于斗争。善于斗争。
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发表于 2018-5-15 09:12 | 显示全部楼层
xin421 发表于 2018-5-14 19:02
挨枪之后冲击很大,根本不能指向,乱打枪可能有跳弹击中周围人倒是真的,不过也顾不得跳弹了,必须打了再说 ...

她要不是个警察这事就更有意义了。不过估计巴西老百姓很难拿ccw吧。
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发表于 2018-5-15 19:08 | 显示全部楼层
uper 发表于 2018-5-15 09:12
她要不是个警察这事就更有意义了。不过估计巴西老百姓很难拿ccw吧。

从文学城的评论转来的:
巴西是枪支合法国家。联合国教科文组织公布调研结果:巴西在最近10年,巴西枪杀死亡人数为32.55万人,平均每年死亡3.25万人。枪杀死亡人数超过26个战乱国家如海湾战争国家、以色列和巴勒斯坦领土争端国家等。巴西社会学家Julio研究揭示:在1979-2003年,巴西枪杀死亡人数55万人,24年间巴西枪杀死亡人数增长481%,巴西人口增长51.8%。居住在巴西的华人随时处于全世界最为恶劣的治安环境里,如果您决定留在巴西,请随时处于戒备状态
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发表于 2018-5-15 19:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 uper 于 2018-5-16 03:56 编辑
supernova22 发表于 2018-5-15 19:08
从文学城的评论转来的:
巴西是枪支合法国家。联合国教科文组织公布调研结果:巴西在最近10年,巴西枪杀死 ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Brazil

In Brazil, all firearms are required to be registered with the minimum age for gun ownership being 25.[1] It is generally illegal to carry a gun outside a residence, and a special permit granting the right to do so is granted to certain groups, such as law enforcement officers.[2] To legally own a gun, an owner must hold a gun license, which costs BRL R$1000,[2] and pay a fee every three years to register the gun, currently at BRL R$85.[3] Registration can be done online or in person with the Federal Police.[4] Until 2008, unregistered guns could be legalized for free.[5]
It is estimated that there are around 17 million firearms in Brazil,[6] 9 million of which are unregistered.[1] Some 39,000 people died in 2003 from gun-related injuries nationwide.[6] In 2004, the number was 36,000.[1] Brazil has the second largest arms industry in the Western Hemisphere.[7] Approximately 80% of the weapons manufactured in Brazil are exported, mostly to neighboring countries; many of these weapons are then smuggled back into Brazil.[7] Some firearms in Brazil come from police and military arsenals, having either been "stolen or sold by corrupt soldiers and officers."[7]
In 2005, a majority of Brazil's population voted against banning the sale of guns and ammunition to civilians in a referendum. However, the Brazilian Department of Justice (Ministério da Justiça), which performs each individual's mandatory background check (which is made prior every gun acquisition, and every three years after it is acquired, which allows gun confiscation at the discretion of authorities), have been forbidding almost every citizen from buying guns,[8][9] based on the Executive Order # 5.123, of 07/01/2004 (Decreto n.º 5.123, de 1º de julho de 2004),[10] which allows the Federal Police to analyze the given reasons for owning a gun, under which "self defense" is not considered a valid reason because there are allegedly sufficient public police officers to maintain nationwide security.[11]
Thus, disarmament is effectively happening in Brazil,[12] as are massive gun confiscations,[13] notwithstanding its refusal by Brazilian people (at the referendum of 2005). Some argue that this will increase gun homicides. Other research shows that there is a decrease in firearm deaths correlating with disarmament.[14][15] However, 2012 marked the highest rate of gun deaths in 35 years for Brazil 8 years after a ban to carry handguns in public went in to effect.[16


https://www.ammoland.com/2018/03 ... ense/#axzz5FdHXdVn6
Brazil Considers Easing Extreme Gun Law, Allowing Self Defense



这个文学城评论基本胡扯,巴西枪法严到几乎难以拥枪(见wikipedia, 25才能买枪,把枪拿出家就非法了, 2005年巴西人民公投结果是大多数人反禁枪,但司法部判定政府可以随意收枪,而且,自卫不是你能买枪的理由(麻痹的什么法律)。

讽刺的是巴西大多数枪支是非法枪,严法没有起到降低与枪相关的犯罪,立法者近年来想放松管制,让合法拿到枪支更容易。

联合国基本左棍当家,梦想着缴美国人的枪。

文学城,微信,中文媒体反枪的是多数,没办法,整个媒体教育系统,无论中美都是反枪的(何止中美,这个世界是反枪的,除了美国瑞士)。枪友们盲目从众就精分了。





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发表于 2018-5-16 08:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 uper 于 2018-5-16 08:43 编辑

https://www.npr.org/sections/par ... -may-relax-gun-laws
我们都知道npr是反枪媒体,这是它的报道:

Right now, Brazil actually has tough gun laws. If you want to own a gun legally these are the requirements:

— a fixed address

— proof of legitimate income

— no criminal record

— a mental health test

— proof you know how to handle a gun and shoot it

— evidence of why you need a gun. For example, a police report of an attack against you.

Even if a prospective gun owner supplies all this information, the police can arbitrarily deny a request for a gun permit.

But Congressman Edson Moreira wants to make it easier to get guns. He is part of what's known as the "bullets, beef and Bible" caucus in Brazil's Congress, a group that is religiously conservative, supports the farming industry and favors greater access to guns.

"Brazil doesn't have a gun problem. It has a problem of illegal guns in the hands of criminals, especially drug traffickers," he says.

His group is trying to relax the ability of the police to decide who gets a weapon. "The idea is to return to the public the right to own a gun or not," he says.

His argument is one familiar to Americans: If the "bad guys" have guns, the "good guys" should be allowed to have them as well to protect themselves.

Indeed, Moreira says he is inspired by America's gun laws.

"The U.S.A. has the perfect legislation in the Second Amendment, which guarantees the population the right to bear arms," he says.

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