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Petition to drop case against NY police officer Peter Liang

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发表于 2015-2-20 16:15 | 只看该作者
FinalFantasy 发表于 2015-2-20 16:11
why his partner was given immunity for even testifyng against him, what a white trash, the whole pol ...

检察官是个华人女的
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Demosthenes 发表于 2015-2-20 18:15
检察官是个华人女的

哈哈!华人的老毛病。对其他华人更苛刻以证明自己公正不因为种族而偏袒华人。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-2-20 16:27 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 FinalFantasy 于 2015-2-20 16:29 编辑
QuiMi 发表于 2015-2-20 16:15
As long as his partner is telling the truth, he is not a trash by any means.

What do you want hi ...

No, he's in the same squad, he has the same responsibility as his partner (officer Liang) in that situation. You know what "truth" is here?! He's just buying himself out by testifying against Liang. Don't you be feeling self principled, at US court, most of the time, it's matter of better lawyers rather than truth or not.
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FinalFantasy 发表于 2015-2-20 18:27
No, he's in the same squad, he has the same responsibility as his partner (officer Liang) in that s ...

Say it straight:  You want his partner to tell lies to save Mr. Liang, don't you.

Is this your moral standard?  Say it straight, please.
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发表于 2015-2-20 16:43 | 只看该作者
这个楼里有两个误传
1. 签名10万次就可以撤诉的谣言
2.在美国法庭里,事实(truth)不重要的谣言.

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QuiMi 发表于 2015-2-20 16:39
Say it straight:  You want his partner to tell lies to save Mr. Liang, don't you.

Is this your mo ...

He does't need to tell no lies ...
It's not your moral or my moral concerned here.
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这帖子讨论的与本分论坛内容无关,暂转移至拥枪版,如不合适转茶馆也可
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FinalFantasy 发表于 2015-2-20 18:48
He does't need to tell no lies ...
It's not your moral or my moral concerned here.

So why did you have problem with Liang's partner for testifying the truth?
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brucewayne 发表于 2015-2-20 15:49
Gurley was reportedly killed by a single bullet, after Liang drew his gun upon entering the stairwel ...

我也不太理解都在吵吵啥。这跟种族有毛关系。
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Demosthenes 发表于 2015-2-20 16:15
真是大过年的不想说狠话。没记错的话这个检察官还是个华人,真他妈的......看到就一肚子火 ...

你给我个不起诉的理由先。火个毛。
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FinalFantasy 发表于 2015-2-20 16:11
why his partner was given immunity for even testifyng against him, what a white trash, the whole pol ...

我实在不太理解你的看法。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-2-20 18:49 | 只看该作者
这样的讨论也许已经没有多大的意义在这样
petition可以drop指控自然是有很大的误导,不过只是想声援一下(该不该,自然是各有各的看法,见楼上 讨论)
还有就是,be kind to our own kind。这个tragedy很可能真是无心之过导致,更何况前面那个睡在床上被暴打16枪的case还在那儿。
这是我的最后一个跟贴,谢谢。
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发表于 2015-2-21 20:10 | 只看该作者
只能说金手指改不掉,碰上startle response,著名的NY trigger pull weight也救不了。

起诉指控是manslaughter,和目前已知走火打死人的陈述还是相称的,如果指控是谋杀则有陷害警官和巴结黑人之嫌,但这件相对不算很复杂的案件检察官要能表现出这种无知也算是奇葩。
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QuiMi 发表于 2015-2-20 16:15
As long as his partner is telling the truth, he is not a trash by any means.

What do you want hi ...

i tend to agree with you on the first part of your post that the partner was no trash for telling the truth, but as far as immunity in exchange for testifying (against his partner), it's a tumor of the system, a law enforcement officer on duty is obliged to complete his/her task including following up obligations such as testifying, if the partner officer committed a crime accessory to the subject officer who is now under indictment charge, the crime need to be tried through due process with applicable vehicle of laws, given the accessory, or the partner being a Caucasian who failed to exercise his sworn in duty such as performing resuscitation, was promised an immunity for breach of NYPD protocols in exchange for testify against Liang, the entire Chinese community has reasons to petition in favor of Peter Liang, being a Chinese rookie offier who violated a NYPD field operating protocol which ended up with an accidental discharge of his service Glock that stroke and killed Gurly, it's the system we are petitioning, it's the inequality that one officer is to be indicted and the other isn't, in my humble opinion, i am not saying the ultimate goal of the petition is for Liang to be relieved from all possible charges, but a fair justice service.
第一次拿起吉他感觉特别好,而我日后却没有成为吉他手。第一次握住我第一把枪时我好怕,特别是打出第一棵弹时那种震撼,而现在已经获得NCI,自由之路越走越深!
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henry 发表于 2015-2-21 22:48
i tend to agree with you on the first part of your post that the partner was no trash for telling  ...

I agree that it smell fishy when the partner takes immunity. He has an obligation to testify unless his testimony may be used against him and he takes the fifth.  So the immunity clears him but the charges are against Liang.

However, it is hardly that much unfair.  It was Liang who discharged the pistol, not his partner. The partner does not seem to bear any responsibility.  Why does he need immunity? Interesting.

From what I see, there is very little chance Liang will be convicted. The case is weak. Liang's only mistake is to put finger on the trigger.  Someone is dead.  That's unfortunate.  No jury will send him to jail for that mistake.
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your polite reasoning here is much appreciated, i have no more additional comments to make for now
第一次拿起吉他感觉特别好,而我日后却没有成为吉他手。第一次握住我第一把枪时我好怕,特别是打出第一棵弹时那种震撼,而现在已经获得NCI,自由之路越走越深!
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QuiMi 发表于 2015-2-20 16:23
哈哈!华人的老毛病。对其他华人更苛刻以证明自己公正不因为种族而偏袒华人。
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靠, 中国人的一个问题就是消息传的邪乎, 自己很少去验证。 这个地区检查官是个黑人, 刚刚干掉一个老白当上的。这个陈是华裔的一个议员, 不是检察官, 但是她去年就跳出来支持起诉梁, 这是我愤怒的地方
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alex 发表于 2015-2-20 18:48
我也不太理解都在吵吵啥。这跟种族有毛关系。

这当然和种族有关系了。 如果认为没关系。 either你太年轻, or 你生活的再一个太TMD美好的美国社区了
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我宁愿将来签呼吁总统给大赦的。
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