Man fatally shot in Bridgeport was possibly being carjacked: police

dart

https://chicago.suntimes.com/cri ... violence-carjacking


The victim was a concealed-carry license holder, but a police spokeswoman said a police report did not say if he had a gun when he was shot.


有人认识吗？

dart

http://www.chineseofchicago.com/Content.aspx?nid=22080

WCB

太大意了。已经要抢车了，还让他们跟到住的地方。
另外有CCW，不应该不随身带着。
据说开枪的是个16岁的天使。

Jet

鸡加哥天使，唉

doublepar

我们通常会说，这不是受害者的错、不能责怪受害者，但这仅仅是从法律或道德意义上出发。
如果从自卫心态、战术方面来说，几乎所有的受害者都有错，because they allowed themselves to be victimized !

ms86

说的太对了！

枪友小白333

多谢分享！真恐怖。大家不妨谈谈真遇到这种情况，该怎么办？

jhe123

枪友小白333 发表于 2020-12-23 08:29
多谢分享！真恐怖。大家不妨谈谈真遇到这种情况，该怎么办？

Police were unable to speak with the victim, but surveillance video from the area appears to show he was shot after refusing to give his car keys to robbers who confronted him, a police spokeswoman said.

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The victim was exiting his car when another vehicle pulled up and someone inside appeared to ask for his keys, police said. The man refused, called 911 and reported that he was being robbed by someone in a white Jeep.

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While on the phone with 911, he walked away and was followed by two cars, police said. People inside the cars then opened fire at him.

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虽然道义上不该说受害者啥，但从报道上看受害者的应对方式实在让人无法理解。碰上抢劫，要么完全配合给对方想要的东西，要么赶快跑路，要么全力反击。而此案受害者一样都没做到，拒绝劫匪的要求后居然慢悠悠的在附近打电话报警，把性命交关的抢劫当成了普通的纠纷，以为可以等警察来了再慢慢处理。

枪友小白333

jhe123 发表于 2020-12-23 09:00
Police were unable to speak with the victim, but surveillance video from the area appears to show h ...

"碰上抢劫，要么完全配合给对方想要的东西，要么赶快跑路，要么全力反击"



嗯，有道理

dart

jhe123 发表于 2020-12-23 11:00
Police were unable to speak with the victim, but surveillance video from the area appears to show h ...

看到后，我也是有些惊奇。按说有CCW，应该处理的更好一些。

jhe123

dart 发表于 2020-12-23 09:32
看到后，我也是有些惊奇。按说有CCW，应该处理的更好一些。

从重要性上讲，mindset > technique > equipment.  此案不幸成了这方面血的教训。

枪友小白333

jhe123 发表于 2020-12-23 09:39
从重要性上讲，mindset > technique > equipment.  此案不幸成了这方面血的教训。
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doublepar

dart 发表于 2020-12-23 09:32
看到后，我也是有些惊奇。按说有CCW，应该处理的更好一些。

光有证，没带枪。

winterwang

其实这不算什么离奇的。我周围很多华人买枪练枪好像也是一阵时髦似的。我的朋友里面有不少买了枪还从来没有去过一次靶场的，有的去考了持枪证并没有真的打算要带枪的，等等等等。不是每个人有了持枪证就会去好好学习，练习，琢磨的。也不是每个买了枪的都是支持2A的。很多华人买枪是出于无奈，说美国这么多枪，自己要是没有就缺点啥。天天盼着“要是美国也禁枪了，我就可以把枪卖了”。

efish

这种情况是不是唯一应作的是交出车钥匙。有枪是不是也不能用来保护自己，除非对方明显有伤人企图？

winterwang

efish 发表于 2020-12-23 20:40
这种情况是不是唯一应作的是交出车钥匙。有枪是不是也不能用来保护自己，除非对方明显有伤人企图？ ...

视各自州法而定。比如德州的城堡法包括车，所以应该没有问题。但是因为车有保险，一般教练/律师都是建议你不要光为保护财产而开枪自卫，还是要在人身安全受到威胁时才动用。

dart

jhe123 发表于 2020-12-23 11:39
从重要性上讲，mindset > technique > equipment.  此案不幸成了这方面血的教训。
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完全同意。